In this conversation John Henry and Anthony discuss the concept of separating oneself from intrusive thoughts and how to deal with anxiety. They explore different techniques used in mainstream life , such as telling oneself to get the thought out of their head and masking it with an activity and John explains how that technique can be a trap in becoming an escape and compulsion . They also discuss the idea of accepting thoughts and allowing them to peacefully drift away. The hosts emphasize the importance of being aware of one's need to identify as the ego needs an opposite or other side in order to achieve that identification.  They also touch on the topic of listening to different perspectives and not attaching oneself to the emotions that arise. The conversation explores the concept of internal and external dialogue and how it affects our reactions and relationships. It delves into the idea of choosing how we react to situations and not letting them consume us. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of being mindful of our thoughts and choosing how we engage with them. The conversation explores the themes of personal transformation, growth, and mindfulness. The speakers discuss the changes they have observed in themselves and others, particularly in relation to emotions and reactions.  Overall, the speakers highlight the value of mindfulness and self-awareness in navigating life's challenges and building a more peaceful and fulfilling existence.