On today's episode, Liz shares her intimate journey with grief. Liz is a client who has seen John at Redlands Massage Therapy for several years. She discusses her personal tragedy, the immediate effects, and the feelings and emotions in the weeks and months that followed.

Liz talks about the understandings that she has come to in the last two years and some of the modalities she has sought during this time.  Liz mentions Michelle Pina during the podcast. Michelle is a Spiritual Conduit who seeks to guide those who have questions about those who have left this world. Michelle can be reached at the office of Redlands Massage Therapy, 909-557-4415,  for more information or to schedule an appointment.  In the beginning of the podcast, John and LisaKay give a shout out to Lisa Vest - owner of Vasa the Yoga Studio in Redlands, California.