In this episode, Cate and Erik invite you to take a breath and feel whatever it is you need to feel right now. There's a lot going on We talk about our relationship to kindness, how it matters, fundamentally, but how it isn't always the easiest thing. We unpack some of the work needed to be *truly* kind and discuss just how important kindness can be, not only on the individual level, but also to our communities as a whole.

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