"There's a constant stream of grief in parenting." Some conversations are just always delicious and I have never not enjoyed speaking with Gillian Rowinski in the years that I have known her and we have stolen some time to connect. In this conversation, we take a quick-but-deep dive into some of the grief that comes with parenthood (spoiler alert: it's a lot) and, I know I say this a lot, but it's one of my favourite episodes thus far. A little more on Gillian: Gillian is a writer and the creator of Unlearning SuperMom.  She is also a certified coach, specializing in neuroscience and transforming consciousness and an HR professional, specializing in leadership development and change management.  When she isn't making all that impact professionally, she is also a wife and mother of three kids. I have long-loved her sense of humour and her generous way of showing up in the world. In the episode, I predictably can't remember the name of a great book I am recommending, it is Tattoos on the Heart - The Power of Boundless Compassion by Gregory Boyle, and Gillian mentions Lost Connections: Uncovering the Real Causes of Depression by Johann Hari. And we would both invite you to continue this conversation over in the Grief: A Love Story group on Facebook; Gillian and I are both there, so I'm really not sure what would possibly keep you from joining us.