Today I catch up with my old friend Ian Gray. 13 years sober brings with it a lot of wisdom and experience. Ian is no exception. We talked about the gift of desperation but also that we need not compare miseries to find a way forward into recovery. Thanks for listening. music: https://neglect.bandcamp.com/releases Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/AIFA Website: https://www.aisforalcoholic.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/A-is-For-Alcoholic-218005295665042/?view_public_for=218005295665042 Twitter: https://twitter.com/AIFApodcast?lang=en IG: https://www.instagram.com/aisforalcoholic/?hl=en Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4eBFkcsDEpOg1uzFQrX3qQ?si=Q2YSkVb0SeiGukvD-EC0Xw SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/user-179165459 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCASi1XpZ3HdWEqa-W_aanCg?view_as=subscriber Overcast FM: https://overcast.fm/itunes1408870161/a-is-for-alcoholic iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-is-for-alcoholic/id1408870161?mt=2 https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Ivctepbseqikshnekafscwczqlq