In this Podcast Noel Bell chats to Paul Magrie who discusses his understanding of integrative transpersonal psychotherapeutic practice as well as his involvement with CCPE, the largest transpersonal training institute in Europe, based in West London. CCPE recently celebrated 30 years as a training institute and in the interview Paul refers to his initial contact with Nigel Hamilton, director of CCPE. Paul is a transpersonal psychotherapist and member of management committee of the CCPE. In the interview Paul discusses the Planes of Consciousness, the Elements Model and transpersonal transformation. Noel Bell UKCP Psychotherapist can be contacted on 07852407140.