In this episode, Fergus is joined by Jonathan Pain: coach, hybrid athlete, ultra-runner,  and father of four.

Fergus asks Jonny to outline the things to consider when trying to balance training alongside being a parent.

Many people use having children as a reason to stop training, but Jonny wants to show people that you can do both, it just requires good communication with your partner, time blocking and being able to make sacrifices when required.

Expect to reflect on how you find balance in your life.

Expect to reconsider your priorities.

Expect to understand that you can still train.

Jonny's Instagram: @jonathanpain

Fergus's Instagram: @ferguscrawley

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