Before we press the record button for an episode, we let our guests know that we don’t necessarily have a list of questions prepared for them, but instead prefer to get the jalopy rolling and then follow the energy where it leads.

This interview, with our dear brother, friend and co-facilitator Aaron Musicant, is a prime example of “following the energy” at work. One thing is said early in our talk that steers us onto what will be our path for much of the show.

Call it an accidental conversation about fathers.

Aaron and I find ourselves talking about our fathers, what it’s like to be fathers to our children, and how to be fathers to ourselves.

Later in the show, we chat about our men's work, friendship, family and more.

The common connector throughout the conversation is the tender and intimate nature of it. This might just be our most vulnerable episode yet. The trust and safety that was present for us is palpable.

We hope you’ll enjoy this special moment between brothers. So let’s get on the road.


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