Defense attorney and podcaster Bob Motta (Defense Diaries) joins Susan Simpson and Jacinda Davis to share his unique take on the evidence used to convict Jake Silva and Ty Lopes of Renee Ramos’ murder. Motta also shares insights into the Delphi murders and how John Wayne Gacy led him to podcasting.   Visit our website for episode transcripts, behind the scene photos and more.  Follow us on social media: on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook we are @proofcrimepod. Listener questions or tips about any of the cases we cover are welcome @proofcrimepod@gmail.com.    Sponsor Deals: Visit BetterHelp.com/proof today to get 10% off your first month. Go to Quince.com/proof to upgrade your closet and get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order!   Stop wasting money on things you don’t use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to RocketMoney.com/proof. Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/prooftruecrime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices