In Episode #14, we are joined by Deon Birkes, the athletic director for Lincoln Consolidated School District in Arkansas and Jason Culler, the Associate Athletic Director for Jenks Public Schools in Oklahoma. Together we discuss the kickoff to the college football season, the value of vendors at conferences, learning from others, and the idea behind the Border States Summit. A Summer conference centered around additional professional education opportunities for athletic administrators coming from the states of Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Missouri.