Have you ever hit that point in a case where you just go ick?  What is it about a case that makes you realize that this one hits a little bit differently than the other ones?  What is it that truly makes your skin crawl?  For Julie, I know that it’s cases when children get hurt, kidnapped or murdered.  That was a line in the sand for her.  For me, it’s cases like this one.  Grooming seems like such an insignificant thing when you talk about killers, when you talk about serial killers, when you talk about the things that I do on this podcast.  Grooming though truly gets to me.  When you hear of cases where it is evident that an adult grooms and takes advantage of a child those are the ones that really get to me.  This week’s case has a man at the centre of it that seemed as though he knew how to manipulate everyone but he groomed two very young women for sure within his lifetime.

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