The children were swallowing coins... At 5 years old, Michael remembers seeing passengers throw coins off the ship. They were docking into Haiti and children were swimming below trying to swallow coins and bring the money ashore. As he peered over the edge and witnessed children desperate to survive, something about this moment has stuck with him to this day. Fast forward a few years—Michael Thatcher currently leads the largest charity evaluator in the United States as the CEO at Charity Navigator. From our conversation today, one thing is clear. Michael is still motivated more than ever to help make the world a better place.  In today's episode, we dive into the intersection of passion, meaning, and doing good as we explore Michael Thatcher's story of leading a career centered on helping others and transforming the nonprofit space. From his time as Microsoft's CTO to growing Charity Navigator's role in impact reporting—you're going to hear a lot of wisdom in this interview.