Today is the second in my A Load of BS on Best Behaviour with Dave Blakely, Executive VP at venture builder and super growth builder Mach49, who I continue to be delighted to collaborate with on this mini-series of conversations on innovation, design and creativity in organisations; answering questions on how we move leaders and teams to change their behaviour, to lose their conservatism and scepticism and experiment wisely.

Today Dave and I talk about discipline. We argue that leaders should have the right to beat up their employees when things go wrong. No, we don't do that really. But we do consider the value of letting a little chaos into the firm to let great ideas germinate safely.

Show notes

• Discipline: a punishment for disobedience or letting some chaos in?
• The BS of imposing discipline on CEOs
• Why Google is brilliant
• Who Dave has stolen from and made it his own
• Why generalists connect the dots better and are masters at lateral innovation
• Applying SV in Paris, Bangkok and Nairobi
• Playing mind games with clients
• Google Save and turning round violent extremists in Nazi US hate groups
• Errors of conservatism, scepticism and pessimism

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