Fallen Night of Terror (In the Style of a Michael Myers Halloween Movie like the Upcoming Halloween Kills)
About This Episode
In this episode, we pay homage to the Michael Myers Halloween Movies. Yes, “Halloween Kills” is coming out, so to prepare (and to celebrate the release) we made our very own improvised Halloween slasher style movie.
There’s a killer, an obsessive doctor, a final girl, and three friends to be killed off. Plus a local sheriff who just won’t take the threat seriously (won’t they ever learn…?). There’s also cotton candy, 14” pipes, playing card weapons, and at one point someone rides a flying reindeer…
Links
Halloween Kills on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_Kills
Halloween Movie Franchise on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_(franchise)
Michael Myers on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Myers_(Halloween)
Time Codes
Segment 1 - Discussion the Genre Tropes: 04:41
Segment 2 - Creating the Movie Outline: 11:41
Segment 3 - Picking the Improv Comedy Games: 18:49
Start of show: 29:21
Improv Game - Movie Trailer: 29:58
Improv Game - Dating Game: 31:25
Improv Game - Gibberish Switch Typewriter: 42:00
Improv Game - Timed Styles: 52:40
Improv Game - Cutting Room: 1:03:07
End of show, into announcements: 1:17:05
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Transcription of the “Discussing the Genre Tropes” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)
Avish Parashar: Alright, so i'm going to start with a five minute timer you hear the duck quack when that end alright, so a couple tropes number one obviously you have a human killer.
Avish Parashar: Who is sort of more than human they sort of our unkillable they have that magic walking power where someone else runs.
Avish Parashar: But they walk and they still catch up to them.
Michael Worth: Yes, they have army is greater than others run.
Avish Parashar: yeah exactly and they have they have the sort of disappearing act thing where.
Avish Parashar: You know the character will walk and you'll see Michael myers in the background, and then, when the character walks back across that same like doorway suddenly the killer suddenly gone so they kind of appear and disappear.
Michael Worth: yeah totally um now let's talk about the protagonists of this um there's a couple different ways, you can go in this case, I believe.
Michael Worth: i'm well how how Mike myers we're going to go, because it was, I believe, a psychologist and like Mike myers was like a emotionally disturbed person and replaying that rather we do.
Avish Parashar: Well yeah so we're talking two characters really the protagonist i'd say is the teen victim.
Avish Parashar: i'm, certainly in the original Halloween movies and and the whole genre that that spun off there's a teen female.
Avish Parashar: You know I posted to Facebook and we're a new show, so I didn't get a lot of responses, but uh.
Avish Parashar: I one buddy matt I posted like what are some of the tropes and so he posted that the cliches are the innocent of the people who survive and the not so innocent don't and that became a big trope of Halloween or like the first one, like the Jamie Lee curtis was very innocent and pure.
Avish Parashar: All her friends were doing drugs and drinking having sex died.
Michael Worth: Right right right that's very true, and that was that was even rift on in scream scream actually lifted that idea and really ran with it so yeah.
Avish Parashar: He also said.
Avish Parashar: it's.
Avish Parashar: it's usually like an everyday people in an everyday setting so like a small town, which is definitely a Halloween thing you know they're not they're not a major metropolis.
Avish Parashar: um but so kind of a small town feel like haddonfield and Halloween.
Michael Worth: mm hmm um what causes the killer to focus on the small group of teenagers, is it some wrong that happened to his family early him or his family earlier by them.
Avish Parashar: yeah so in the first Halloween movie it was just he just went back to his hometown as a kid he killed his sister and they got sent to an asylum.
Avish Parashar: And then he just went back to his hometown on the anniversary itself subsequent movies, they added all this mythology about how Jamie Lee curtis was his sister half sister so that's why he was specifically targeting her.
Avish Parashar: That may or may not have to be in our story because.
Avish Parashar: it's almost more terrifying and mysterious that would random in the first one like.
Michael Worth: That could be cool yeah but you also do that if you know, for example, some of the ones like I know what you did last summer, those are like that act of like or even Freddy krueger where it's like the sins of the family are visited upon the kids you know, like.
Avish Parashar: yeah which we can have, but I think these movies, are generally a little bit.
Avish Parashar: Even if they're getting revenge like Jason it's about like it's not specifically against the people that wrong them it's just in general, like he just.
Avish Parashar: Bad happened here so i'm going back to.
Avish Parashar: continue to get revenge alright cool um now, the one thing that's that Halloween had that a lot of the other movies don't is Dr loomis so there's a.
Avish Parashar: Dr loomis talk to them is the great Donald lessons.
Avish Parashar: Saying sadly I think Halloween six was his last movie or one of those horrible halloweens what's his last role.
Michael Worth: Oh man.
Avish Parashar: it's like it's like.
Michael Worth: Julia leaving on a street fighter.
Avish Parashar: yeah exactly but there's like in this, I think, having an obsessive like scientist or a doctor or someone.
Avish Parashar: who's a little bit proactive in the hunt mm hmm.
Michael Worth: yeah is he also oftentimes responsible for this person's.
Michael Worth: maniacal disposition like he broke them or something like that.
Avish Parashar: can be that's not really the case in Halloween but it definitely can be okay.
Michael Worth: yeah i'm kind of like just trying to come up with like things to to drive our story um but yeah no you're right there's a maniacal Dr obsessive who's kind of like knows a lot about the patient and kind of trying to bring them to justice, a.
Avish Parashar: lot of like us lot stocking.
Avish Parashar: So a lot of like.
Avish Parashar: Tension building like the first Halloween is surprisingly, not that gory but.
Avish Parashar: there's a lot of like Michael myers is there, then he's not is he is he in the House is he not so the lot of like.
Avish Parashar: stalking and spence.
Michael Worth: How do they end up in Halloween, how do you end up defeating him, other than just good old fashioned blunt force trauma beat him to death because there any sort of like secret trick to they kind of tap into some aspect of the psyche you know, like.
Avish Parashar: One of the fraud Halloween Halloween they kind of blow them up in the second one.
Avish Parashar: He gets stabbed in shot in the first one um you know mysterious death and the fourth one he gets captured in the fifth one they don't even kill him.
Michael Worth: Oh really okay yeah this is.
Avish Parashar: Your last Halloween the new one that came out they.
Avish Parashar: burn him.
Avish Parashar: But evidently he comes back.
Avish Parashar: So yeah they don't there was there was some famous.
Avish Parashar: I don't think it's true, but there was some Oh, the mask is key right there's always a mask.
Michael Worth: Oh yeah always always always are the faces always hit yeah.
Avish Parashar: yeah and there was there was some some theory that someone said, which I don't think has validated that if you watch the end of the first Halloween Michael Mars, is trying to choke her.
Avish Parashar: that she pulls off his mask and then he likes test back and he's trying to get it back on that's when loomis shoots him.
Avish Parashar: So it's almost like, but I think he actually gets a mask on before you get shot but someone was like Oh well, this mass was off so he didn't have his like invulnerability which I don't think it's true but.
Avish Parashar: He cared about his mask enough that he stopped.
Avish Parashar: Trying to kill his target to put his mask back on so.
Michael Worth: yeah so you know vanity.
Avish Parashar: And all that right so, but you know in.
Avish Parashar: terms of story, this is not like.
Avish Parashar: Some of the other ones we've done that have a very involved outline plot structure, this is like there's a killer becomes to a small town area stocks, a lot of people ends up with the final girl and there's like an obsessive guy trying to stop them.
Michael Worth: wow all right.
Michael Worth: we'll figure out a way to meet the story has some teeth, you know but.
Michael Worth: I mean the simplest good right.
Avish Parashar: yeah there's a lot of room play alright cool alright so that's segment, one which is the outline which brings us to.
Transcription of the “Creating the Outline” Segment (Unedited and Un-Cleaned up)
Avish Parashar: So, now that we've got the tropes we're going to spend about five minutes hashing out a high level outline we use a four act structure.
Avish Parashar: To tell our story and just the disclaimer is we're gonna.
Avish Parashar: it's gonna be a high level outline now kind of roughly what will happen in each act but it's improv comedy so we may completely throw this away and veer off of it immensely but it gives us a starting point so i'll set the five minute timer now in a way we go.
Michael Worth: prologue or trailer.
Avish Parashar: Now I think a lot of these, you have the prologue and kind of what happened before, like you know you talked about that inciting incident years ago that he's coming back for.
Michael Worth: yeah yeah.
Avish Parashar: So the prologue will often have that, so I think a prologue might be good.
Michael Worth: On the other hand, we could also go with the whole this do just shows up and starts killing right kind of maximum overdrive right we're just like.
Avish Parashar: All right, yeah so really comes down to you more in the mood to play a an improv game for a prologue and into a movie trailer.
Michael Worth: Let me get back to you on that i'm not sure, yet I like them both.
Avish Parashar: Okay, please we'll figure that out yeah.
Avish Parashar: Alright, so.
Avish Parashar: In act one we're going to meet the main will meet both main characters meet the main girl and it's almost always a girl so we'll stick with that yep.
I agree.
Avish Parashar: and meet the obsessive dude yeah.
Michael Worth: Those the two main characters.
Avish Parashar: They may not necessarily meet at this point, they often don't until later.
Michael Worth: mm hmm and probably the second tier capital, because you gotta get some cannon.
Avish Parashar: fodder friends yeah the friends who will be picked off yep they will not be picked off yet.
Avish Parashar: No.
Michael Worth: Are we playing the game where they go to an abandoned place i'm going to do that thing like don't blink where they are let's go to a cabin in the woods, you know or.
Avish Parashar: I don't think so for for a Halloween movie know, and I think you know we did we started a slasher movie months ago and that you can see if you go back to our podcast archive.
Avish Parashar: called summer of decay yeah and that was supposed to be a Friday 13th styling and quickly became more supernatural with like a monster but.
Avish Parashar: I think that's one of the things separates Halloween from.
Avish Parashar: Some of these others is they are just in a town or not like in an abandoned locale cool and.
Avish Parashar: I think we're going to see.
Avish Parashar: I think we'll see the villain being creepy but he's not necessarily gonna.
Avish Parashar: kill anyone here.
Michael Worth: Until the.
Avish Parashar: Where you might kill like total rondo's.
Michael Worth: yeah actually the end of act one let's have a killer killer random.
Michael Worth: Just to show that he's dangerous, because then act two will be when he asked it just puts a site on the group of friends and starts just often them.
Michael Worth: cool.
Avish Parashar: yeah all yeah So yes.
Michael Worth: Well, we reserve the right to change it.
Avish Parashar: yeah I was gonna say that I feel like so that's actually one say I have to.
Avish Parashar: Act two is almost where you got a lot of the creepy stocking maybe kills like one person i'm like I think there's a lot of stalking and act to lie like suspension suspension building.
Avish Parashar: And there's a lot of Dr loomis investigation like he's talking to the shower if he's trying to.
Avish Parashar: he's trying to get in contact with the main girl if the main girls connected, if not he's just trying to find the killer.
mm hmm.
Michael Worth: yeah yeah I agree content.
Avish Parashar: And I think this is where like the the final girl, the main character kind of keeps seeing the killer but then the killer is not there and she's like what is that oh that's weird like that's a creepy dude.
Avish Parashar: uh huh and I guess the thing we didn't talk about in the tropes which we can decide when it comes to titling is.
Avish Parashar: You know Halloween obviously is themed around a holiday, are we going to see Mars or on Halloween or around random holiday or we can we can figure that out, as we go.
Michael Worth: Random holiday.
alright.
Avish Parashar: So the doctor investigates there's probably some killing.
Michael Worth: There has to be at this point time otherwise.
Avish Parashar: yeah we've.
Michael Worth: gone too far to the story that's what's gonna probably get the doctor to come he's like the killer will happen that often up it's happening again kind of like supernatural where they're like.
Avish Parashar: yeah and then, when we get into act three I think our main character arm.
Avish Parashar: I think in the beginning she's like a little freaked out but doesn't take it too seriously I think something happens or an act three she gets more concerned, like all right, maybe she like tries to call the police, who, just like there's this guy and he's doing something I don't understand.
Michael Worth: huh yeah at this point in time, also the body count starts to stack up.
Avish Parashar: Now, is where the friends really start to die.
Michael Worth: yeah yeah buddy counts decks up and then.
Avish Parashar: I think we yeah we see a lot of the Friends die here.
Michael Worth: yeah yeah i've already got a game for that i've already got a great game for at three.
Avish Parashar: So I think, by the end of X three it's pretty much just the two main characters and the villain or left alive like yep yep.
Michael Worth: And this act for is going to be it's it's this late in the game they become proactive, this is when they set a trap for the killer and they work together to.
Michael Worth: kill the killer or get them arrested or something like that so act for it's all about turning the tables on the killer and luring him in right.
Avish Parashar: yeah although you almost never see any slasher movies, they very rarely become proactive like in Friday night my mom she she kind of did, but in like in Halloween.
Avish Parashar: lori shoulders of running for her life right and Friday the 13th is running for a life and scream that is running for their lives, like in there's very little table turning in slasher movies, which isn't to say, we can have that.
Michael Worth: front of the name or she was the only one where she set up all those.
Avish Parashar: home alone yeah she said.
Avish Parashar: He said the booby traps up in 10 minutes wow so.
Michael Worth: We just use that in our own Facebook group were like let's talk about lead reality of time dilation there okay so yeah.
Avish Parashar: So I do say it's like.
Avish Parashar: It a lot of ways act for in these and that's a time where we can keep going the slasher movie is a it's like one giant chase sequence, and maybe.
Avish Parashar: The obsessive protagonist is trying to be more proactive and this is where the like at Halloween it was lori strode and Dr loomis didn't meet till the very like last frame basically um, but they can meet earlier, and then the doctor and the main girl can work together to to try to stop.
Michael Worth: Okay yeah let's let's go let's go to act for like it's down to the last two and it becomes like a big ol like fight and flight, for your life kind of thing you know.
Avish Parashar: yeah and you know, there can be a turning of the tables.
Avish Parashar: But even like terminator right which a lot of ways is like a slasher movie.
Avish Parashar: uh huh you know she doesn't turn the tables until the very, very, very end, like the last you know you're terminated fokker.
Michael Worth: Oh yeah which is great yeah and they kept on and Cameron kept on giving you the false ending on that.
Avish Parashar: I think goes off and name but she's just running for her life until she.
Avish Parashar: kind of figures out the very end, how to you know crush the terminator to that.
Michael Worth: yeah yeah it's true so we can go that, and that means that we have the choice to go mysterious death or final death, especially when I want to do a sequel could just do final death or.
Avish Parashar: Or is it.
Avish Parashar: Like I said.
Avish Parashar: His death in the last Halloween that came out a few years ago it was definitive he was like trapped Bernadette they watch and burn and he's coming back.
Michael Worth: that's what he does all right, we got we got ourselves a good flow here.
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