Nate & Ben discuss New Year's Eve, David Ortiz and the hilariously bad gender reveal, food based gender reveals, the 2024 Cardinals ZIPs projections and why we should be hyped about 2024, the ZIPs projections and why 2024 may be another rough year, our thoughts on lineup construction, and news from around the league.

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