From skateboarding to spelunking to Bible college: In this long-form conversation, BibleProject co-founders Tim Mackie and Jon Collins tell the origin story of their nonprofit, crowdfunded organization that produces 100% free Bible videos, podcasts, blogs, and more.

They reveal the behind-the-scenes exegetical, creative, and technical processes it takes to serve up their one-of-a-kind world-class animations and other content. And they discuss what it is about their approach that takes the Bible from a “theological tech manual” to a “hospitable, approachable” collection of divine, deep truth that the world is hungry for today.

They also give a sneak peek into what’s next for BibleProject, including their new app, a 14-hour “deep dive” series called Classroom, and more.

Tim Mackie is co-founder and chief education officer of BibleProject. He’s also a writer and creative director, and a professor at Western Seminary. Tim holds a PhD in Semitic Languages and Biblical Studies. Jon Collins is co-founder, chief product officer, writer and creative director at BibleProject. With a BA in Biblical Studies from Multnomah University, Jon has spent a decade founding and leading digital media and marketing companies before coming to BibleProject.