In this episode of "Investment of Self," Kathy engages in a heartfelt and thought-provoking conversation with musician Heather Maloney. The discussion explores the power of music as a source of comfort and inspiration, and its role in navigating life's challenges. As they delve into the nature of interest and its connection to creativity, they share personal stories of resilience and inner growth. From the transformative impact of positive psychology to the vulnerability and resonance of music, this episode offers a deep dive into the human experience.

In this episode, Kathy and Heather discuss:

• The Power of Music
• Resonance and Vulnerability in Music
• Meaningful Connections Through Music
• Humorous Reflection and Artistic Inspiration
• Humorous Reflection and Artistic Inspiration

00:00 Grateful for music connecting us during COVID.

04:56 Teaching to embrace and savor one's interests.

07:28 Choosing to perpetuate empowering stories and emotions.

12:26 Silent retreat led to meaningful songwriting journey.

14:33 Deeply connected to your words, emotional experience.

19:08 Struggle in meditation is actually essential growth.

23:14 Music is a deep, constant companion for me.

27:35 Fascinating discussion about the resonance of research.

32:31 Struggling, learning and growing during the pandemic.

35:27 Normalizing vulnerability and feelings in a supportive space.

37:08 Connecting through music creates powerful intimacy and connection.

42:10 Persistence in the music industry yields gratitude.

47:56 Amusing question about impact in pill form.

49:13 Reflecting on the question of essence humorously.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Kathy’s Course “Learn to Live Positively”

If Heather was crushed up and put into pill form, what effect would she want to have on someone?

To be a reminder that you're not weird and that it's okay to be thinking or feeling  the thing that you're thinking or feeling.

More About Heather Maloney

Visit Heather’s website

Follow @heathermaloney_ on Instagram

Listen to Heather on Spotify

After over 1,000 live shows and more than a decade of touring behind studio albums, Heather Maloney  is set to release her first live album, “No Shortcuts | Live at the Academy” in June of 2022 on the celebrated indie label, Signature Sounds.

The Massachusetts-based “writer song-singer” found music in the midst of three years at a meditation center, honing a sound moored in days of silent reflection and reverence for storytellers like Joni, Rilke, Ken Burns, and the anonymous authors of Zen parables. And while she eventually traded the quiet, structured life as a yogi for the kinetic life a touring musician, the core of her songwriting remains centered around same curiosity abou

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