The conversation revolves around the topic of aging and its cultural impact, focusing on how celebrities' aging is scrutinized and its influence on regular individuals. Hosts, Nina Manolson and Jennie Kramer, discuss the privileges and challenges of aging, emphasizing the cultural conversation around it. They explore societal attitudes, the impact of media, and the pressure to conform to youth and beauty standards. Billions of dollars are spent every year to deny, slow, or minimize the impact of aging, nearly all related to how we look. Culture matters too. Some societies revere elderly members, looking to them for wisdom and guidance. In the US, we devalue aging, often making us feel invisible. Next, they discuss the concept of "aging well" and challenge conventional notions by highlighting the importance of confidence, vitality, and embracing individuality. They touch upon the influence of media figures like Jane Fonda, Martha Stewart, and Maggie Smith in challenging stereotypes related to aging. The hosts also discuss the role of plastic surgery, body autonomy, and the importance of understanding one's choices without judgment. Grief and acceptance of physical changes are explored, with an emphasis on cherishing memories and the wisdom gained through experiences. What is it to be “body current”? Nina breaks down how this impacts us now more than ever. As we all spend some part of our days looking at ourselves on a Zoom call or a FaceTime chat, we are literally faced with accepting how we are today, in this moment. The conversation concludes by highlighting the significance of learning and evolving throughout life, with a focus on building wisdom and embracing one's authentic self amid societal expectations and changing perceptions of beauty and aging. As always, be kind to yourself because you are enough. Resources: The Miracle Club Wiser Than Me podcast Connect with Jennie and Nina