Bobby and Jens sit down with Amy Charity and TJ Juskiewicz to discuss the inexorable growth of the El Tour de Tuscon - the rise and rise of gravel in the USA - plus how they're bringing gravel to a European audience... and how we can bring back the glory days back to the domestic road racing scene. Bobby and Jens is a Shocked Giraffe production for Velo. This episode was produced and edited by Mark Payne . Remember to follow Bobby and Jens on social media Facebook https://www.facebook.com/people/Bobby-and-Jens/100093419004559/ Threads: https://threads.net/@bobbyandjens YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdm7tkA_shHCsL0o1sV8biElMZd8-2y-g Twitter: https://twitter.com/bobbyandjens Get the Outside Watch app to stream films and series wherever you go: https://outside.watch/ios https://outside.watch/android Follow Outside Watch for the latest and greatest: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/outsidewatch/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/outsidewatch/ Get unlimited access to articles, courses, premium films, series & more with Outside+ The one subscription to fuel all your adventures: https://outside.watch/Plus