In this episode of The Antidote, Amy and Grace connect with poet, mental health advocate, and New York Times bestselling author Bassey Ikpi about the power of virtual reality fitness, romance novels, and living with bipolar two disorder.

***If you or someone you know is experiencing suicidal thoughts or a crisis, please call or text the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by dialing or texting 988.***

Amy and Grace share their bummer news of the week – artists missing from Rolling Stone’s 200 greatest singers of all time list, and the pressures within the entertainment industry. They also share their antidotes: cooking and New Year’s rituals.

This week’s Creative Tap-In:

“Creativity is more than just being different. Anybody can plan weird; that’s easy. What’s hard is to be as simple as Bach. Making the simple, awesomely simple, that’s creativity.”

- Charles Mingus

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