As one of the most recognisable faces on BBC News, Martine Croxall has covered some of the world’s biggest stories. She has also – briefly – been the story. She and Gabby look back on her first job earning £1.40 an hour, why she’s always tried to avoid being in debt, and how working for the BBC has put her pay and personal views in the spotlight.

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This episode was recorded in March 2023.

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