This week, Group Managing Director Rachel Caggiano chats with Jordan Rizzieri about her life and career.

Rachel doesn't have a strong memory of what she wanted to be when she was young, which she attributes partially to her deeply religious upbringing (1:32). But she did love school as a kid (3:13), and she now views others in the world with an empathy she felt was lacking from her religious education (5:19).

After college, she moved to D.C. to do some writing that involved a new thing called "The Internet" (8:00). But the job did take up most of her time, and so she moved on to book editing before she found her way into the agency world (13:01). Eventually, her husband encouraged her to move to a company that was working at the forefront of social media (15:45).

Rachel shouts out a mentor, Bethany Little (17:20), and discusses the idea that there's no such thing as balance for anyone, especially working Moms (20:53). She also shares the value of setting boundaries (26:50) and how her father's relationship to his work may have influenced her ideas of what work should be (29:33).

Finally, we get into how important choice is, and how much more choice we all have than we think we do (39:05).

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