Intercontinental accents. The psychology of trust. Wikipedia’s origins. Gemini triplets. Finding your tribe, genuine mentorship and creating safe spaces (and people) in the corporate world… And taking care of family in the real world. Danielle and Jeff are back!

And with a savvy new guest: Cathy Ma, VP of Platform Growth and Engagement at ThomasNet. Tune in to hear all about the art of listening and being present and the power of friendship and empathy.

This is a wonderfully wholesome episode you don’t want to miss, tune in now! Trust us. (wink)

The Upside, Downside: a Millennial-Boomer podcast for everyone.

🎙 Hosted by Danielle Michel and Jeff Bergstein, the Upside, Downside dives into the world of business, finance and everyday life and the ups and downs that go along with it. It’s a heck of a ride you won’t want to miss!⁠ Available to listen wherever you stream your favorite podcasts.

Follow us on social media: @theupsidedownside_

Check us out online: MTRSNow.com/podcast

Follow Cathy:

Twitter: www.twitter.com/cathyma | https://www.linkedin.com/in/cathyma/

Podcast: Thomas Industry Podcast

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