In this episode, Karen and Jen discuss the topic of transitions and share their personal experiences with various life and career changes. They talk about the challenges and growth that come with transitioning from one phase to another, such as moving to a new city, changing career paths, and becoming a parent. They emphasize the importance of embracing change, learning from failures, and being open to new opportunities. The conversation highlights the value of personal growth and finding joy in the journey rather than focusing solely on the end goal.

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