It's time to break out your best 1960s-Batman graphics -- because it's an action-packed episode about ACTION! ITINERARY: S. L. Huang (The Water Outlaws) explains the historical roots of Water Margin, muses on what being a stunt performer brings to writing, interrogates the ethical questions humanity has grappled with for centuries, and lets us all in on a little secret about the book... Julia Vee & Ken Bebelle (Ebony Gate) talk about how they came to write together, why they wanted to root their series on the West Coast, and the joys of writing fun action sequences. No third interview! Because we don't cross picket lines! But Drew does muse briefly on why this current joint strike is existentially important for all creative industries. For a full episode transcript, click here. Tor Presents: Voyage into Genre is a co-production with Lit Hub Radio Hosted by Drew Broussard Audio engineering + production by Stardust House Creative Music by Dani Lencioni of Evelyn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices