“Things don’t have to last forever in order to be successful… Sometimes we get too caught up in ‘sustainability,’ which prevents us from experimenting.” - Deborah Harrington

In this episode, philanthropic trailblazer and seasoned strategist Deborah Harrington joins Mia to discuss how we can redefine leadership in ways that diversify group thought, create a culture of trust, and build mutual loyalty.

Deborah (she/her) brings to the conversation decades of experience leading in the public sector and social change philanthropy. She talks eloquently about how to reorient an organization’s leadership toward shared power.

Deborah and Mia discuss what often prevents organizations from building relationships (particularly in times of challenge), how vulnerability invites connection (which actively builds trust), and why organizational change can happen more quickly than we think.

Plus, they share the story of how they organized together in their Chicago neighborhood!