This episode may be hard for some to listen to. There is a growing problem with our Juvenile Justice system. In order to understand it, we need to listen to the kids that have lived it.

About Donna...

Donna Waters is an author, a full-time mother, and a devoted wife. Through her troubled youth, she has realized that her voice matters. She currently has 4 books written including the true story of Kristine Bunch. She spends her free time with her family.

You can find all her books on by visiting her Author Page on Amazon

About Justin...

Justin Bodnar is a systems administrator with interests in computer security and artificial intelligence. As a minor, Justin spent over seven years in the juvenile justice system in Pennsylvania. After his release, he went on to attend Wilkes University, where he worked on researching artificial intelligence, and acquired his bachelor’s of science degree in Computer Science. In his free time, Justin enjoys making and recording music, hiking, and horticulture.

Resources...

Pa. judges in kids-for-cash scheme ordered to pay more than $200M (whyy.org)

The Pennsylvania ‘kids-for-cash’ judicial scandal, explained (inquirer.com)

A Fatal Fire, a Girl in Prison, And a Tangle of Justice Issues - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Credits:

Host: Kristine Bunch, Indiana exoneree and Outreach Coordinator for Interrogating Justice and How to Justice

Producer: Tammy Alexander, creator and co-host of the Snow Files Podcast

Announcer: Eric Brenner, actor and voice over artist

How to Justice is a non-profit group that seeks to raise up justice-impacted people. Its goal? Provide easy-to-read answers to your questions about your rights before, during and after prison.

Interrogating Justice is a nonprofit, nonpartisan think tank. Our team of attorneys, advocates and allies take on some of the biggest legal, social and ethical justice-reform issues today. Our goal is simple: help shed light on the obstacles preventing our justice system from being just.

Donate: We have the largest database of resources for justice impacted people in the United States. Your donation will help us continue to educate justice-impacted individuals about the law and how to protect the rights that they are entitled to under it. It will pay for writers, fact checkers, and Spanish translators as well as outreach efforts. Any amount will help.

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