37: Facing shame as a trans person? With Jake Graf

It Can't Just Be Me

Feb 28 2024 • 46 mins

This episode centres around one powerful voicenote from a listener called Fiona – a trans woman who grew up in the 1950s. Fiona got in touch to share the turmoil she went through growing up and the ripple effect it’s had on her life. Fiona asks how we can stop young trans people today feeling the same level of shame and ultimately create a more accepting society for future generations.

To unpack this question, Anna is joined by one of the most prominent trans male voices in the UK today Jake Graf, along with Sarah Taylor – a trans-woman who appeared on Naked Attraction twice: once before transitioning, and once after.

Joining the trio, is Chris Sheridan (AKA - the queer-psychotherapist) to offer their expertise to this impassioned and important conversation about what it means to be transgender in the UK today.

Jake is a patron for Mermaids, a charity that supports trans, non-binary, and gender-diverse young people and their families.



Have questions about sex? Divorce? Motherhood? Menopause? Mental health? With no topic off limits, Anna’s here to prove that whatever you’re going through, it’s not just you.

If you have a dilemma you’d like unpacked, visit itcantjustbeme.co.uk and record a voice note. Or tell Anna all about it in an email to itcantjustbeme@podimo.com.

This podcast contains adult themes that may not be suitable for children. Listener caution is advised. Please note that advice given on this podcast is not intended to replace the input of a trained professional. If you’ve been affected by anything raised in this episode and want extra support, we encourage you to reach out to your general practitioner or an accredited professional.

From Podimo & Mags Creative
Producers: Laura Williams and Christy Callaway-Gale
Editor: Kim Milsom
Theme music: Kit Milsom
Executive Producers for Podimo: Jake Chudnow and Matt White
Executive Producer for Mags: Faith Russell

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