We all know the old adage “practice makes perfect.” At first glance, it seems like good advice.

Isn’t perfection the goal, the thing we should all strive for? After all, if something is perfect it is, by definition, the best it can possibly be. Nothing can be better than that–or can it? Is there something out there that could be better than the ever-elusive “perfect?” Turns out there just might be! Join dog trainer Rebecca Johnson and me as we discuss the limits of perfectionism, as well as gardening, lemurs, and whether there is such a thing as better than perfect.

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