Join Averill and Bernadette for our first episode of 2023 as we interview Mark Valencia from Self Sufficient Me.  Mark is passionate about self-sufficiency and he enjoys communicating this passion through his Blog and You Tube channel.  They say never meet your heroes, but we are glad we did because Mark is just as delightful as we imagined and we had a blast talking to him.  We hope you enjoy listening to this episode as much as we did recording it.

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