Scott is joined by Jonathan Dumas and Steve Anderson to talk about how the world would change if everyone was incapable of lying.

Find our more about Jonathan at https://heyjonathandumas.com and connect with him on linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-l-dumas/)

And check out Steve's book at https://thebezosletters.com and connect with him on linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevetn/)

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