Chris and Jane waffle with Dr Ben Marsh of internet singing sensations the Marsh Family. Ben talks about his family's rise to fame performing parody versions of popular songs during the lockdown, the challenges of navigating copyright law and his thoughts on freedom of expression. He also tells us about his academic work at the University of Kent, gives a shout out to his copyright heroes and tells us about his favourite cake. Here are some links to things we refer to in the podcast: Marsh Family YouTube page - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMmgu60G09zrL9JsrFZYgqA/videos We're Not Singing Sea Shanties, The Marsh Family Comic Relief song - https://youtu.be/baRcYdJF7-c Marsh Family Just Giving page - https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/marshfamilysongs Craig, C. and Tarantino, B. 'An Hundred Stories in Ten Days': COVID-19 Lessons for Culture, Learning, and Copyright Law https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3691294 Marsh, B. 'Unravelled Dreams' - https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/unravelled-dreams/E3A4D6048E56C52A556F01F20EF6D883 House of Lords Inquiry into Freedom of Expression online - https://committees.parliament.uk/call-for-evidence/312/freedom-of-expression-online