Scott and I have been attempted to get this get this podcast recorded for weeks. Well, its finally here we get into green dogs and the struggles of trainers not wanting to put in the work to actually train dogs these days.

This podcast is really more about all of us, me included, continuing to learn and evolve for the sake of today's dogs. give it and listen and please bear with us as we did have a few connection issues. But it is still worth your time I Promise.