S4 | Ep 13 | Productionising GenAI to Drive Value with Zachery Anderson, Chief Data & Analytics Officer at Natwest Group

Driven by Data: The Podcast

Jan 30 2024 • 55 mins

In Episode 13, of Season 4, of Driven by Data: The Podcast, Kyle Winterbottom is joined by Zachery Anderson, Chief Data & Analytics Officer at Natwest Group, where they discuss the value that is being driven from productionising GenAI, which includes;

  • Why GenAI feels different to any other D&A hype that’s come before it
  • How the scale and interest is off the charts
  • Having an outpost in Silicon Valley to scout new tech partners
  • How they were working with OpenAI 18 months before ChatGPT launched
  • Working with LLM’s 6-8 months before ChatGPT
  • Having 2 LLM use cases in production and another 10 in development
  • How there will be more direct interaction between LLM’s and customers
  • Educating the business on the security risks
  • Why regulation matters but customer expectation matters even more
  • Why it’s important to just get started
  • Prioritising the correct use cases
  • The 5 design patterns for GenAI use cases
  • Running the central D&A function like a PE firm; it has to generate a return or it doesn’t happen
  • The importance of killing projects that won’t deliver a return as fast as possible
  • Having an annual target of how much the D&A organisation will generate as a multiple of the cost structure
  • The importance of having your finance team calculate and audit target
  • Why Analytics Leaders should, but don’t do analytics on themselves
  • Why GenAI will change D&A team structures and operating model
  • Why executive support and interest is more important than who you report to
  • Advice on productionising GenAI
  • Why it really matters where your GPU’s are hosted
  • Why you need to hold your current plans very lightly
  • The importance of app development for LLM usage


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