"The Big Three: Oil, Gold, and Copper" Featuring Max Layton, Citi

C.O.B. Tuesday

May 22 2024 • 56 mins

Today we had the pleasure of visiting with Max Layton, Global Head of Commodities Research at Citi. Prior to joining Citi in 2017, Max held notable leadership positions including Managing Director and Head of European Commodities Research at Goldman Sachs as well as Deputy Head of Commodities Research at Macquarie. We have been eager to examine copper’s recent record highs and were excited to have Max join us for a discussion on global commodity trends.

In our conversation with Max, we discuss the current commodities landscape and significant trends that Max and his team are observing in the market. We explore the primary factors driving the copper surge, the impact of US Federal Reserve policies on global commodities markets, investment strategies for short-term cycles and long-term structural trends, and the most significant opportunities for growth and investment in the commodities market over the next few years. Max shares his perspective on China’s role in the energy transition and how China’s technological advancements impact the copper market, potential risks to the copper market from geopolitical events or changes in global trade policies, broader energy transition dynamics, and how the current state of the uranium market compares to other commodities. We cover how global economic trends and technological advancements might shape the copper market over the next decade, supply side challenges for copper, how speculative funds impact the copper market, the natural gas market in the US and globally, current trends driving gold prices, long-term oil market demand outlook, power prices and industrial activity, and more. It was fantastic to get Max’s perspective from his vantage point in London and as head of the global group. He and his team clearly see market developments and gather information from multiple unique angles. Thank you for joining, Max!

Mike Bradley kicked off the show by noting that this week could be a much slower news week for markets than prior weeks. On the economic front, he highlighted the 10-year yield was trading at ~4.45% yield and that there could be a bit of churn in bond yields this week due to lack of any real economic stats (outside of the FOMC meeting minutes). WTI remains stuck in a narrow trading band ($77-$81/bbl) even with the death of Iran’s President and Foreign Minister in a helicopter crash over the weekend. Front month copper contracts recently spiked above $5.00/lb. mostly due to a substantial increase in “NET” non-commercial future positions. Mike also noted that long-term copper fundamentals remain constructive due to Russian metals sanctions, global production cuts and mine closures (ex. Panama), all at a time when copper demand is set to accelerate. On the broader equity market front, the DJIA hit an all-time high (>40,000) as well as most other broader market indices. NVIDIA reports Q1 results on Wednesday (after the close) and could be a market moving event for broader markets and the Tech sector. He ended by noting that NVIDIA is the best performing S&P 500 Stock YTD (+90%), accounting for ~25% of S&P 500 gains in 2024, so the investor expectation bar is pretty elevated for NVIDIA. Brett Rampal also joined and added his perspective and inquiries to the discussion.

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