Businesswoman and philanthropist Melinda Gates on James Baraz's Awakening Joy, spirituality, and the books that come into our lives later -- and put everything into perspective. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out Ghost Wall by Sarah Moss, The Moment of Lift by Melinda Gates, Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret by Judy Blume, Awakening Joy by James Baraz and The Book of Awakening by Mark Nepo. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices