Jeff joins me to talk about his travels - around the country and around the world. In 2020, he had a goal to visit every state with CLYDE a 2005 van he retrofitted for long-term travel. He met many wonderful people and shares his stories and theirs. Join us for some great stories of travel, love and friendship. Connect with Jeff on Instagram - @pops_van_gogh Show notes and full transcript available at www.pl8story.com. Enjoy this episode and want to buy me a cup of coffee? https://www.buymeacoffee.com/pl8story