Everybody faces difficulties, it's how you deal with them thats counts. Your dark times bring the most lessons, you have to want to get out of the darkness, as difficult as that may be. Our host Katie, discusses her experiences and the lessons she found that helped her. Joined by producer Stew. You can find more from Jolly Soul on: Instagram @thejollysoul, Facebook @JollySoul, Youtube @JollySoul, Website: www.jollysoul.com