Benjamin Fabian is a German herpetoculturist and the owner of Dragantha's Dragon's, a breeding project focused on producing Phrynosoma (Horned Lizards). In the episode, Benjamin discusses what motivates him to work with such a specialized group of lizards and why he chooses to keep with "minimal interaction" between himself and his lizards. Benjamin also covers the dietary requirements horned lizards have for ants, how he collects wild ants, propagates captive ants, and how he simulates ant hills within his enclosures. SHOW NOTES: https://www.animalsathomenetwork.com/194-draganthas-dragons/ WE DISCUSS: 0:00 Coming Up 2:19 Welcome Benjamin & Background 12:24 Overview of Phrynosoma Genus (Horned Lizards) 16:50 How to Research Properly 20:25 Horned Lizard Husbandry 28:00 Why do they require ants? 34:28 Tomaskas Ltd. 35:50 How they hunt ants in the wild & how to feed them in captivity 45:23 Simulating an Ant Hill in Captivity 49:05 Breeding Phrynosoma (Horned Lizards) 54:00 What Drives You to Work with Phrynosoma? 1:01:41 The Responsibility of Selling Horned Lizards 1:09:19 Closing Thoughts 1:10:25 Outro SPONSORS:

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