Clive Stevens returns to talk about affordable housing and land ownership.

We recorded this episode in the midst of a thunderstorm, so apologies for any sounds of thunder, rain and lightning (if you can hear lightning).

Also, I mention Clive will discuss public transport in this episode but that will actually be in a future discussion with Clive.

Buy Clive's book! : https://www.tangentbooks.co.uk/shop/pre-order-now-after-the-revolution-lessons-from-local-government-on-designing-a-dynamic-democracy