Frank and Saga discuss Saga's thesis, "Our Beds Are Islands: Creating Queer Intimacy Through Physical Theatre In The Age Of Streaming Media", which included a theatre performance in the fall. If you'd like to hear more from Saga, check out this TEDx event from January 2020 (referenced on the podcast): https://www.ted.com/talks/robbin_derry_and_saga_darnell_understanding_non_binary_excerpts_from_a_correspondence Reed community members can read Saga's thesis online in the Electronic Theses Archive: https://rdc.reed.edu/i/e9c32ac5-bb19-4998-8b30-7a98c6fc3fa4