In the longest episode of the podcast to date we discuss Mark Millar, Bryan Hitch, and co.'s The Ultimates (2002) #7-13. Topics of discussion include the intrinsic conflict between the series' core concepts and its status as an ongoing narrative, the incorporation of real world anti-Semitic conspiracy theories into the Chitauri aliens' lore, casual homophobic language of the time period, racist lettering choices, and more.