Those Boys talk about what it means to be woke and how different each person's journey is when it comes to understanding racism in America.

Leah's recommendations mentioned in the podcast:

Layla Saad

Me and White Supremacy

Ijeoma Oluo

So You Want to Talk About Race

Ibram X. Kendi

How to Be an Antiracist

You’ll Never Believe What Happened to Lacey

Amber Ruffin & Lacey Lamar

Ally Henny – writer and speaker on race - I follow her on Facebook.

I have so many more recommendations, and a few notes on the podcast. For a blog post about this, please visit:

http://leahgallo.blogspot.com/2021/11/tboth-podcast-episode-11-youre-here-now.html