New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman joins Anthony to discuss her recent book, “Confidence Man: The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America” which chronicles his life and its true meaning from his rise in New York City, to his shrunken post-presidency.

Haberman has been covering the world of Donald Trump since her days as a metro reporter in the late 1990s and explains how his “playbook” has not changed since he entered politics. Trump has said Maggie is like his “psychiatrist,” and Anthony confirms she got under the former President’s skin more than any other journalist.

From both of their lived experiences with Mr. Trump they detail his “tremendous insecurity,” the “lies and misdirection,” and his obsession with the media. Anthony opens up about his time in the White House, his own regrets and the lasting impact of this, firstly on the Republican party, and then on America.

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