In this segment, Beyond the Scope, we speak to pathologists about their pursuits and interests in and outside of pathology. On this episode, our host Dr. Nicole Jackson (@NicoleJacksonMD), an Associate Medical Examiner at the King County Medical Examiner's Office, speaks with Dr. Barbara Sampson, the first woman to lead the New York City Office of the Chief Medical Examiner. We'll hear their conversation about mentorship and leadership, as well as cutting edge techniques being used to identify decedents, find undiagnosed genetic diseases, track the opioid crisis, and manage the COVID-19 pandemic. What was it like to be in a New York City Medical Examiner on 9/11? How is the COVID-19 pandemic similar and different? What surprising public health discovery did Dr. Sampson play a role in as a Medical Examiner?   Featured public domain music: US Army Blues, BugaBlue