I'm pleased to welcome Hans van Klinken to the podcast.

I am sure many of you have used the flies he has developed and I get a look inside the process of how they were developed and how he has used them.

The Klinkhammer Special is now 40 years old and the release of his book - The Klink coincides with this anniversary and I learn about the work that went into it.

This episode becomes more than just a conversation about flies and fishing though as we talk about health, the things he has done publicly and not so publicly to promote fly fishing and his work in the army and the things he saw while serving.

It is a slightly longer episode than normal but it is all the better for being so.

I hope you enjoy this as much as I did.

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