In this episode, Juliana talks with Cory McKague, an artist, educator, and technologist about their artistic practice, the American agricultural system, and what it's like to embody the experience of a cow through virtual reality.

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Conversations with Animals is a monthly podcast hosted by Juliana examining our interconnection with nonhuman animal lives. Expect interviews with ecological writers, filmmakers, vegan chefs, animal-related spaces, artists, and more! Each month, a fresh companion newsletter is published. Subscribe: www.julianaroth.com/drawinganimals

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Cory McKague is an artist from the San Francisco Bay Area who is currently a MFA candidate at the University of Colorado Boulder. He holds two Bachelor's degrees both in K-12 Art Education as well as Studio Art & Digital Fabrication from the University of Northern Colorado.  Cory's work centers around social engagement through technology and education. During a four month residency this summer at the Firehouse Art Center in Longmont, Colorado, he created an interactive working exhibition that resulted in two curated exhibitions of over 100 local artists.

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Juliana is a writer, filmmaker, educator, and performer. She formerly lived as a volunteer on an organic farm in Maine, out of a backpack in the wilderness of Utah’s La Sal Mountains, and worked for the Ecology Center. She was selected as a VIDA Fellow with the Sundress Academy for the Arts for her fiction. Her writing appears in The Breakwater Review, Irish Pages, Los Angeles Review of Books as well as being produced as independent films that she directs. Her web series, The University, was nominated by the International Academy of Web Television for Best Drama Writing and screened at survivor justice nonprofits across the country. She teaches writing at NYU.