Listen to why Bob Marcucci's dad told him to be whatever you want to be, but don't be a fireman. Service was ingrained in him. The path he took was following his militant passion about public education. He whistfully wonders what would the world be like if everybody chose to come together and send their kids and spend their time and their resources into the public schools? That's what keeps him motivated. His concern and what he sees with standardized testing is this, "They publish our test scores and everybody says, that's a good school and that's a bad school, and most people don't really dig in to get the whole thing, to understand the whole dynamics of a school and all those things that a school has that add value that you can't quantify."

Join Dave Hirschkop and his guest, Bob Marcucci, Assistant Superindendent of San Rafael Schools in California.