In our inaugural episode of First Liberty Institute’s podcast, The Case for Liberty, Kelly Shackelford and Jeff Mateer discuss our recent U.S. Supreme Court case, Groff v Dejoy. They explain the legal strategy, the troubling precedent, and decipher what we heard at the highest court in the land.

The Case for Liberty is a new podcast from First Liberty Institute. It offers a deep dive into the most important religious freedom cases of our day with some of the nation’s top religious freedom attorneys.

First Liberty’s Chris Freund will be the host and guide through the conversations – delving into the details of our strategies and goals for each case. With a rotating cast of attorneys, The Case for Liberty is for those seeking an in-depth look at religious freedom in the law.

Watch the full oral argument: https://firstlibertylive.com/videos/the-faithful-carrier-live-at-the-supreme-court/

Learn more about this case: https://firstliberty.org/groff

Timecodes:

00:00 Intro

2:07 What we heard in the courtroom

4:17 The government’s argument

5:00 Our argument

10:12 How the EEOC and Congress fits in

13:08 The government’s tricky claims

15:04 Where SCOTUS has landed in past cases

18:48 Where the burden falls

21:54 The diversity of faiths in this case

24:18 Gerald Groff’s accommodation

26:12 The Hardison case and strict neutrality

30:00 Potential outcomes of the case

32:09 The significance of this case