The indescribably brilliant Jen Ives joins host & MC James Ross as, alongside her stellar QL set, she talks about separating the art from the artist, care work and playing on cis guilt.

EDITOR'S NOTE: James has really set me a challenge on this one, getting Jen to record in what sounds like a palanquin carried by buses across the Hammersmith Flyover. I've done my best but there are traffic noises throughout. Apologies.

If you want to see more of Jen, info can be found on her website HERE - and if you're a fan of existentialist transgender dread, links to her series "Woman Face" are available HERE

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Edited by Rhys Lawton

Original show recording by Sam Nicoresti

Music is by ROOKES production services (https://www.iamrookes.com/)